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Re: Sweet Home 3D 5.0
Today, the Beta 5 brings Plan > Make level unviewable / viewable menu item and the ability to add or delete an object in a group. Furniture can be added in the currently selected group either with Furniture > Add to group or Edit > Paste to group menu items. So, if you want to move some furniture to a group, just select that furniture, cut it, select the destination group and choose Paste to group. I guess you would have loved to be able to do the same thing with a simple drag and drop, but this sounds quite too complicate to manage, just when the moved furniture comes from different levels. Note also that if you delete all the furniture of a group, the group itself will be deleted. Please, be sure to test this feature, including weird moves and undos/redos. I tested many combinations, but I could have forgotten some special cases.
This new beta fixes also the regression in Export to OBJ format feature, a small bug in the management of selection in groups, and it disallows to change the visibility of objects in a group to avoid a too complicated management of the size and elevation of a partially visible group.
dorin, the fact that you can't group a text with some furniture is a good point to push me to add a Color item in the Modify text style menu. Will see...
digitaltrails, you're right, managing baseboards at wall ends isn't so easy but I keep it in mind in case I find an idea...
okh, I'll try to grant an easier access to special properties in the Furniture Library Editor. Not sure it will happen in the coming version though.
storm88, you can already switch from a layer to another with the keyboard arrows when the focus is on plan tabs. I guess you would prefer direct shortcuts, but using Tab / Shift + Tab keys combination to change focused component isn't too hard. Don't hope to be able to group furniture that don't belong to the same level, because that would become too complicate. Nevertheless, if you think you found a bug, please describe how to reproduce it so I can fix it.
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the level switching is odd. (Win 8.1, beta 4) If I click one floor it gets selected but I can't use arrows to switch. I have to ctrl+up to highlight the levels (should already be highlighted because I clicked one that was not active) and then I can switch them with arrows. I was hoping ctrl+pg up/down could work, browsers use this shortcut.
the groups bug: make 4 walls. add new level (differen height) and copy walls. Place a piece furniture to each level, each to different coordinates. Select level 0. Select both furniture and group them. Ungroup them. Now in the 3d view everything looks OK, but in the plan view, on level 0 I see both the furniture from level 0 and level 1, although I should only see the one from level 0.
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Sorry, the keys combination used to change focused component are Tab / Shift + Tab (I updated my previous message to avoid confusion). I'll see if I can add ctrl + page up / ctrl + page down and how it's used in other software.
About the groups bug, there's... no bug. As grouping pieces create a group at the selected level, ungrouping the group then keeps the pieces on the level of their group. Only undoing will be able to retrieve the same state. As said previously, I won't manage grouped furniture that don't belong to the same level.
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Please, be sure to test this feature, including weird moves and undos/redos.
Cut / paste does seem a bit erratic. Cut option appears to come and go in menus (as opposed to Copy?). Trying to cut an item which is in the Furniture list just underneath group, up to group. The item is cut, but then the names of the two items in the group also vanish from the list (the dimension values are still there). When I select group to paste my cut object, there is no paste to group option.
Sorry for the vageue description, but I sort of don't get it to be consistent either. Will test some more. Sent you file and pics.
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Different levels of group&ungroup Furniture problems, though not a big problem, but it should be corrected
I put A furniture on the first floor, second floor put B Furniture Under normal circumstances it should be like this Level1A and Level 2B 2B Furniture is original JPG Then group 1A&2B like this and 2B is Change original JPG
Then ungroup 1A&2B like this,on Level 1A can see 2B
To solve this problem should not be too complicated:
then group, Record (2B) original ELEVATION
Then ungroup,Add a command, again the furniture back to its original floor.and set (2B) ELEVATION=original ELEVATION
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After a brief testing, all improvements seems great.
Here is a few thoughts : - layers are great once understood the concept that "base or original level" is visible in every other "same elevation level".
- There is a coquille in the edit box french version "visble" checkbox.
- The ability to show text in 3D is also a good improvement. However, it would be so nice if we could do the same with measurement rulers to show someone in 3D sketch at wich height is a window and how tall is it, same as kitchen furnitures and almost everything. By the way, I think an unvisible layer is now the perfect holder for every 3D view text info.
- I guess it would be good to have a function to group and organise levels now we have layers.
- Also, a little searchfield by name above furnitures could be someting nice too.
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okh, thanks for reporting the issue in furniture table, it should be fixed in Beta 6.
YGYL, thank you for taking the time to describe your issue. But keep in mind that good ergonomics = predictable result. I don't think your idea is good because original elevation and level (you forget that one) would be hidden information, i.e. something you can't guess. Imagine you give your .sh3d file to someone else, how can he predict that the table will belong to level 2B if he ungroups the group?
remib, I fixed the typo on "visble" checkbox. Levels are organized by elevation and then the order you set in their modification dialog box, so just modify a level to change that order. I don't think grouping layers will happen anytime soon.
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okh, thanks for reporting the issue in furniture table, it should be fixed in Beta 6.
Thanks, but I am still struggling. Now, in the file I sent you, if I CUT the garden hedge into the GROUP, the Vegetation GROUP closes and cannot be opened with the plus sign. And I cannot find a way of opening it to paste the garden hedge (Paste to group is greyed out for Vegetation). But I do manage to paste the Garden hedge to the Roof GROOP. After careful consideration, though, I think having the Garden hedge on the roof is a sub-optimal solution
But maybe my file is messed up, I will try again tomorrow. ok
