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Posted by ybon at Nov 18, 2017, 10:46:42 AM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Quick follow-up:

- I've tested SweetHome3D on a fresh Ubuntu 17.10 install, and it frozen when I started drawing a wall (tried twice)



- back on my main computer running arch, I've tested SH3D version from 4.6 to 5.4, here is the summary


    * 4.6: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (click is shifted, icons are two small, drawing grid is too small)
    * 5.0: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same)
    * 5.1: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same)
    * 5.2: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same)
    * 5.3: responsiveness NOK (oops), HDPi support OK (yay :))
    * 5.4: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (click is shifted, icons are two small, drawing grid is too small)
    * 5.5: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (same)
    * 5.5.2: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (same)


So, seems something is going on with 5.3 release. Given this release fixes the HDPi support (for me), it may be that the responsiveness issue is related.
Strangely, starting from 5.4, HDPi support is broken again (for me), but the responsiveness isn't fixed.
Sadly, from this quick investigation, I see that there is no release with both responsiveness and HDPi support for me.

Any hint out from those new elements? Anything I can test out?

Thanks :)

Posted by ybon at Nov 18, 2017, 11:19:06 AM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Tried to run 5.3 version without 3D view (adding -Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.no3D=true argument), but the responsiveness issue is still present.

Also tried to pass -Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale=2 to version before 5.3, but it does not seem to apply.

Posted by ybon at Nov 18, 2017, 4:38:19 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
OK, adding all those parameters, I can run 5.2 with HDPi support and a normal responsiveness:

-Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.resolutionScale=2 -Dswing.defaultlaf=javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel -Dswing.plaf.metal.controlFont=Dialog-12 -Dswing.plaf.metal.userFont=SansSerif-12 -Dswing.plaf.metal.systemFont=SansSerif-12

:)

Still interested by a fix to be able to run the latest release though :)

Posted by LeenaM at Dec 13, 2017, 4:05:58 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Slowness that appeared suddenly is an issue here. What can an ordinary user do within the usual administrative tools for Windows and Java?
I have Windows Home 10.0.16299 and Java Versin 8 Update 151 build 1.8.0_151-b12

Posted by LeenaM at Dec 14, 2017, 2:06:03 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Seems to be working OK now, since yesterday! Have done/changed nothing. Happy to receive a comment or explication, though!

Posted by veverone at Feb 18, 2018, 4:08:44 PM
applause   Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow

To use these options, simply execute the installer in a cmd window followed by the options of your choice separated by spaces. For example:
C:\SweetHome3D-5.5-windows.exe /j3d.version=1.5.2 /os.arch=x86


I'm looking forward to reading your comments to be able to modify the FAQ accordingly.


For me, Sweet home 3d was crashing right from the start with "fatal error (...) update your driver/directx".

I tried this and it works wonderful! Anything else I tried doesn't work, but this worked, in that exact combination (tried it one without the other and was still crashing).

My info:
OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
OS Version: 10.0.16299 N/A Build 16299
OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
OS Configuration: Standalone Workstation
OS Build Type: Multiprocessor Free
BIOS Version: Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07PR, 21.11.2012
------------------------------------------------------
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000

Report Date: 2/18/2018
Report Time[hh:mm:ss]: 15:05:59
Driver Version: 9.17.10.4459
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro(10.0.16299)
Default Language: Romanian (Romania)
DirectX* Version: 11.0
Physical Memory: 8105 MB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz
Processor Speed: 2095 MHz
Vendor ID: 8086
Device ID: 0116
Device Revision: 09

* Processor Graphics Information *

Processor Graphics in Use: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Video BIOS: 2098.0
Current Graphics Mode: 2560 by 1080

* Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *

Active Digital Televisions: 1
Active Notebook Displays: 1

* Digital Television *

Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 2,2
DDC2 Protocol: Supported

Maximum Image Size:
Horizontal: 26,38 inches
Vertical: 11,02 inches

Monitor Supported Modes:
640 by 480 (75 Hz)
640 by 480 (60 Hz)
720 by 400 (70 Hz)
800 by 600 (75 Hz)
800 by 600 (60 Hz)
1024 by 768 (75 Hz)
1024 by 768 (60 Hz)
1152 by 870 (75 Hz)
1152 by 864 (75 Hz)
1280 by 720 (60 Hz)
1280 by 1024 (60 Hz)
1280 by 1024 (75 Hz)
1600 by 900 (60 Hz)
1680 by 1050 (60 Hz)
1920 by 1080 (60 Hz)
2560 by 1080 (60 Hz)

Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Supported
Suspend Mode: Supported
Active Off Mode: Supported

* Built-in Display *

Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 2,2
DDC2 Protocol: Supported

Maximum Image Size:
Horizontal: 13,78 inches
Vertical: 07,48 inches

Monitor Supported Modes:
1366 by 768 (60 Hz)

Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Not Supported
Suspend Mode: Not Supported
Active Off Mode: Not Supported

Posted by Puybaret at Mar 3, 2018, 3:48:59 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
From a recent discussion with Java 3D maintainers, there seems to be a solution to run Sweet Home 3D under Windows 10 64 bit on old Intel processors with integrated graphics.
If you continue to get the driver error at Sweet Home 3D launch in 64 bit, you should simply download
https://communities.intel.com/servlet/JiveSer...80582/legacy-igpu-x64.zip
unzip it and execute the install.cmd it contains.
Please, try it and report how it worked for you.
----------------------------------------
Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator

Posted by Chucky2910 at Mar 6, 2018, 10:11:56 AM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Hi,
have the same problem right now.
Using Windows 10 on a Laptop with Intel HD Graphic 4000.

The 3D view is laging as hell and i installed Java 3D after this it seem to befixed for around 15 Minutes. The 3D View worked nice but than lags again.

If i load a saved project i can see that the models on the 2D view take much more time to load as before...

I dont know what to do now. Have tried Puybaret tip with the legacy igpu thing but without any effect.

Posted by scanti81 at Mar 29, 2018, 5:25:37 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
My company is developing an app base on Java3D as well. We found out that disabling double buffering on the 3D Canvas helped to resolve this problem. Hope this helps.

Posted by EmAlvin at Mar 31, 2018, 4:49:53 PM
Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
That worked for mee too. I just added a slight modification due to the version number and ran from comd line:

SweetHome3D-5.7-windows.exe /j3d.version=1.5.2 /os.arch=x86

in order to reinstall from scratch my new SH3D version. While my previous 5.7 plain installation did terribly slow down on 3D rendering, this installation mode competely fixed any issue.

I operate on a laptop with Windows 10 home 64 bit and a 3 years old Intel core i7 cpu.
I also noticed that after reintalling SH3D, it reserves just one third RAM than before.

So, tx a lot!

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