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Re: Poor performance on desktop application 3D View compared to HTML5 viewer.
I'm still waiting for anyone with the issue to assist in debugging it by running the 2 command line steps I mentioned above. If we can reliable say that it's the Intel driver on windows 10 bug (and many people have suggested configurations that don't match this) then I can look into a solution.
If someone with the issue also has it with directx, then we will know it something entirely new. If someone with the issue doesn't have Intel drivers, then we know it's not that. If someone with this issue also has it under WebStart then we also know it's not the issue I'm thinking of. However I have never come across another issue like this, other than the Intel driver bug in many long years, so without more debug information it'll be slow going to get a fix done.
Regarding your particular issue, I can't really explain the brief speed up you got when switching to a separate window. But the super slow 3D is perfectly explained by software rendering (which is what it appears people machines are falling back to). The 2D view being slow is expected because the top down icons are created by a one frame 3D render from above. You could change to the catalog icon for furniture in the preferences if you like, but obviously that won't help much.
Sorry it's taking a long time, but I don't get the issues, and I don't have an old Intel GPU laptop to try to reproduce on. Phil.
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Re: Poor performance on desktop application 3D View compared to HTML5 viewer.
Could not make heads tails out of the requested test, but with 9.17.10.4439 HD3000 it seems that some times it works for 20 minutes just fine then not - a restart of the program or even the PC does not seem to matter if it is going to work or not - it just sometimes works for a while and then not. Memory management issue I would think - it is not laoding up the PC at all - I have a ton of resource not being used - it just seems to not make use of the memory for the program (sometimes) like 85% of the time. I have 8gig of 1333 ram it is not making use of anything. No expert but a guess.
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Tried Win10/64bit thingy with an i3 processor. OS just updated through numerous cycles. Confirm that whatever updates Win10 has been up to, has now rendered SH3D so slow that it is practically useless. CPU usage pretty normal, but SH3D (Java Platform SE binary) appears to eat up more memory than it used to(?) Most operations in SH3D are hopelessly slow and 3D window only responds after having
PS> wmic path win32_VideoController get name,driverversion DriverVersion Name 10.18.10.4358 Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
But this is just one of the issues I have with Win10. Pretty much everything is slower and the fan spins so fast I am afraid the laptop will take off. Sorry that I cannot be of more help. For me the obvious solution is to avoid Win10 (for as long as I can). So far I have yet to find one single benefit for the 'upgrade'.
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The other shell command, I have yet to figure out, but I am to annoyed with Win10 to check right now.
PS C:\Users\ok> java "-client" "-d32" "-Dj3d.rend=d3d" "-Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.version=1.5.2" -jar "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sweet Home 3D\SweetHome3D-5.4.jar" Error: Unable to access jarfile C:\Program Files (x86)\Sweet Home 3D\SweetHome3D-5.4.jar PS C:\Users\ok> java "-client" "-d32" "-Dj3d.rend=d3d" "-Dcom.eteks.sweethome3d.j3d.version=1.5.2" -jar "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sweet Home 3D\lib\SweetHome3D.jar" Error: Invalid or corrupt jarfile C:\Program Files (x86)\Sweet Home 3D\lib\SweetHome3D.jar PS C:\Users\ok>
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Re: Poor performance on desktop application 3D View compared to HTML5 viewer.
Seems i am now stuck with 10 and hate it more by the hour. Issues persist and get worse, not only is panning around the view virtually impossble as the image can take minutes to catch up once i have anything other than walls and windows, i cannot use colors as they are no where near a match, i have to use textures now the render times are hugely long (hours for external views)or, more often than not, fail to complete, left with random black box's. Sorry to say i am going to have to give sh3d a miss until the java or windows conflict can be sorted. TC All Mike
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Hate Ten ? No !
What about windows 8.1 then ?
Seven was an old OS for PC. The first 'horizontal' OS was windows 8 and 8.1. Now with Windows 10, we have all equipped plateforms (Smartphones, pads, laptop, PC and server).
I Say that at this time, I haven't problems with W10. Generally, problems come from java...
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Evil progresses when good people do nothing! --- SH3D 7.1 and nothing else - W11 64b in 4K
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@ bdfd W10 makes my pc look like some sort gimmicky phone, i dont use apps i use programmes.
Anyway, 10 was no improvement for me, i have now tried 3 different versions of sh3d, no joy, completley removed all trace of sh3d from pc and started fresh with no plug ins or tools, didn't realise i would lose my own library items though ,then gradually reinstalled the plug ins and library items.
I have now noticed a fairly strange difference between virtual and aerial renders :-
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
I tried with reinstalling Java. It looked from the beginning that problem has gone but unfortunately still exists. What is interesting sometimes SweetHome works perfect, sometimes is very slow. Have no clue why it varies? It is already 3 months since first error report and still no solution :(
,then gradually reinstalled the plug ins and library items. 
