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Ceiling not shown in one project only
Hi,
I am currently having an issue with the ceiling feature in only one project and am looking for suggestions what to do next.
I have worked with the ceiling feature of rooms both sloped and standard and they have worked well. In my current project, I missed to check for this at an early stage and currently no ceilings are displayed in 3d view anywhere. However, they do seem to appear sometimes, when I am at a much lower point with the 3d visitor, but it is inconsistent.
If I create a new project add a room, some walls and check the show ceiling box in the rooms dialog, everything works as expected. In this current project it does not even show when I try creating a totally separate simple square room.
Is there any ceiling setting that I am somehow missing?
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Re: Ceiling not shown in one project only
Update:
I have found one half of the solution. It seems that the levels were off and that the upper floor's floor was lower than the ceiling thereby masking the display of the ceiling. Re-aligning the floor elevation, thickness, and height has solved the issue for level ceilings. Keet's guide at https://www.dodecagon.nl/dodecagondocuments has helped a lot here.
I continue to have issues with ceilings at an angle unfortunately. I have two levels which have a continuous slope (the roof starts mid 2nd floor and continues to 3rd). Sloped ceiling works but very inconsistently and currently only at the topmost floor. Hoping for someone to have met this challenge before :-)
I have two levels which have a continuous slope (the roof starts mid 2nd floor and continues to 3rd). Sloped ceiling works but very inconsistently and currently only at the topmost floor. Hoping for someone to have met this challenge before :-)
If it is the ceiling under the roof I would suggest that you switch off the ceiling display and use the roof generator to create the roof. That roof has it's own 'ceiling' because you can texture the inner side of the roof. In some situations you will need the inner side to have different textures over different levels. In that case you can add thin partial roofs under the full roof and set the inner side of the full roof invisible.
Personnaly I consider the sloping ceiling an old feature that was needed when we didn't have roofs with their own ceilings. Does anyone have an example where it really is useful considering the alternatives we have with roofs and/or other objects?
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Hi Keet,
Thanks for the quick input. I had experimented with the roof generator but did not get the hang of it. I have tried again and get better results now. What I have not yet figured out is whether I can create the roof from one room, or whether I would need to piece it together from multiple rooms.
I am looking to generate a roof with several dormers like this: https://www.dachwerk-nord.de/gauben/schleppdachgauben/ The roof spans from mid of the 2nd floor to top of the house (3rd floor). For now It seems most practical to build the different angles separately and then group the objects in SH3D. Any experiences on how to best do this? Or perhaps someone has written a guide :-)
There's nothing wrong with a roof in multiple parts. Sometimes it's easier to create it that way. You can always combine the parts and export/import them if you insist on a single objects for the roof.
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@Keet or @Dorin, perhaps the link could be added somehow more prominently somewhere, e.g. at the Plugins Page or in the Tutorials? (there's always the possibilty that it's already there and I was not smart enough to find it - in that case, please disregard this)
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1. Thanks you find and remember me this tutorial. 2.
perhaps the link could be added somehow more prominently somewhere
Probably you've right! The link to the roof windows library was mentioned also here . With out it they can't place roof windows on this roofs. Who need it will find it. The rest don't need a virtual roof. 3. About ceiling: 3.1 @LTL81 From few versions ago, under ceiling section it is a checkbox Flat ceiling only. Probably it depends also of the walls high and level high. 3.2 @Keet
Does anyone have an example where it really is useful considering the alternatives we have with roofs and/or other objects?
Yes. Consider that there is a multi-level house (block house) or even a single level house with few rooms. The roof could be (or not) at the last upper level. At all levels you could set the ceiling color/texture for each room without having to make or use other objects instead.
But probably I'm misunderstand again
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Does anyone have an example where it really is useful considering the alternatives we have with roofs and/or other objects?
Yes. Consider that there is a multi-level house (block house) or even a single level house with few rooms. The roof could be (or not) at the last upper level. At all levels you could set the ceiling color/texture for each room without having to make or use other objects instead. But probably I'm misunderstand again confused
Yes, I think you misunderstand. Of course the top room can have a sloped ceiling but not the rooms on lower levels. That would make a really strange room above the sloped ceiling . But considering it's the top level where you would need a roof there is no longer a need for a ceiling since the roof provides the ceiling. I just wondered if there is a (strange?) situation where the sloped ceiling is still useful because I can't think of one. Of course the flat ceilings remain as useful as before. By-the-way, what is the difference between normal windows and the roof windows? Only that they are created horizontal or is there something else you did?
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situation where the sloped ceiling is still useful
Probably when you make a room under the stairs.
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