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Posted by KitchM at Jul 31, 2019, 6:47:33 PM
Double Wall Windows and Doors
When a double wall section is created and I wish to add a window, I must make the window depth the total depth of the two walls and the space between. However, when I apply it, and try to adjust the position, it snaps back to a default size.

How can I keep the depth and make it snap into place on one wall or the other?

Posted by hansmex at Jul 31, 2019, 7:09:38 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
Use an invisible hatch to make a hole in both walls, then insert the window with cursor keys so that it doesn't snap.
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Posted by KitchM at Jul 31, 2019, 9:00:40 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
Please explain "invisible hatch".

Posted by Mike53 at Jul 31, 2019, 11:53:20 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
the invisible hatch is an object you can download and add to your library, search for it using the search box, top right corner of this window.

Position your window with the snap, magnetism, then use the modify function to change its depth to match the thickness of the wall, with that done use the arrow keys on your keyboard to position it in the wall
or
Disable the magnetism - file>preferences, then drag your correctly sized window into position
or
drag the window into position while holding the Alt key, this temporarily disables the magnetism

Posted by KitchM at Aug 1, 2019, 3:03:48 AM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
So are you meaning the service hatch found under Doors and windows, and then making it invisible?

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 1, 2019, 9:25:37 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
That would probably work for you, or you could try Emmanuel's digginginvisiblebox found
here, this can create holes in walls, ceilings and floors i believe

Posted by KitchM at Aug 2, 2019, 10:37:12 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
I found the following to be the case. First, the service hatch worked better than the digging invisible box. Second, when selecting one and modifying it, if I enter the depth I want and then Okay, it shows up fine. But if I click on it, it shrinks back down to the default size. The only way it worked for me was to size it to the window or door I had there, change the depth and then move it with the arrow keys. I could see it work as soon as the opening appeared on the other side of the other wall in 3D view. A nice effect was that the inner space became visible from the outside as soon as it reached the right spot while watching the movement in the 3D view.

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 2, 2019, 11:09:47 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
using the keyboard keys is what both Hans and myself suggested, even the slightest movement by any other means reactivates the magnetism

Posted by KitchM at Aug 2, 2019, 11:22:04 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
Okay, it is coming along. However, there needs to be a box for a corner. I tried two overlapping ones, but the inner side walls are still opaque. So I had to choose Modify furniture>Color and texture>Materials>Modify...>Color and texture>Invisible.

Sadly, the boxes are always over the door or window, making it hard to select the other. I will have to move all the hatches to another layer.

I assume I will have to combine two windows to get a corner window.

Posted by KitchM at Aug 2, 2019, 11:25:35 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
I just noticed that the hatches loose their bottoms and tops, so the space between the walls is shown. Need a way to just make invisible one side or the other.

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 3, 2019, 1:17:23 AM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
Not sure i fully understand what it is you are trying to achieve, in order to give further advise i think you need to show images or maybe share your file, either way would help us understand what the difficulties are, especially since positioning windows, even into a double skinned wall, should be easy.

Posted by KitchM at Aug 4, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
http://www.mediafire.com/file/y37d08nrn04xr5x/Corner_Window.sh3d/file

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 4, 2019, 10:43:57 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
quick question
are your walls really 640 mm thick

Posted by KitchM at Aug 4, 2019, 11:28:18 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
I have an eight inch concrete block wall, a fourteen inch space and a second wall of two by three or fours.

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 4, 2019, 11:53:44 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
ok.
try this
its not fancy but it fills the hole

Posted by Mike53 at Aug 4, 2019, 11:58:56 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
the group of box's and the opaque wall i used to create are all still there, if you wish to modify any of them to create your own, you will now at least be able to see how it is done, once happy with it, export it then import it but check the box that says "door or window" when you are importing it.

Posted by KitchM at Aug 12, 2019, 9:49:37 PM
Re: Double Wall Windows and Doors
Thanks. I'll give it a try.