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Posted by perdrix52 at Sep 22, 2013, 12:56:23 PM

Splitting walls and joining them?
If I split a wall, and adjust the thickness of one section to be thinner than the other, then the join is in the middle of the thicker wall, with the result that there is a step on the inside and outside.

1) How to adjust the connection point to so that there is only a single step on a chosen side.

2) Bonus points to adjust so that the joint is at an arbitrary position within the thicker wall.

Another question. If I draw walls as a continuous operation, then there are arbitrary angled joints. If I draw two walls I don't see how to "Join them together", I can only draw the new wall so it is "buried" in the other wall which doesn't feel like it is the "right" way to do things!

Thanks
Dave

Posted by hansmex at Sep 22, 2013, 5:11:43 PM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
Dave,

First, I suggest you read the User's Guide... There's lots of useful information to be found.
Second, I suggest you install the AdvancedEditing plug-in. On the Documentation page you will find a useful tutorial. You can join walls using the AdvancedEditing plug-in, amongst many other things.
Third, study how Magnetism works. See the User's Guide. Amongst others, magnetism governs how walls connect, and whether angles are in 15 degree increments.
Fourth, study how to draw walls. You can connect the end of the last wall with the start of the first wall by double-clicking. Explained in, yes yes, the User's Guide.

Finally, I don't understand what you mean with your question about thickness. Can you provide an image to explain the problem?

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Posted by perdrix52 at Sep 23, 2013, 11:21:52 AM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
I generally end wall drawing with a click on the Select arrow which I understand to be the same as a double-click. In any case doing this doesn't join the new wall I am drawing to the wall I am trying to connect to. It generally leaves a very small gap, or the new wall finishes part way through the existing wall.

Dave

Posted by perdrix52 at Sep 23, 2013, 2:27:18 PM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
How do I insert an image into this post? The file is in a jpg on my computer ...

Dave

Posted by hansmex at Sep 23, 2013, 2:32:02 PM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
This post may help you.

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Posted by perdrix52 at Sep 24, 2013, 11:58:59 AM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
OK, here's a picture:

The first one shows what I get if I split a wall and reduce the thickness of a section.

The second is what I want to achieve (but the walls just overlap, they aren't joined).

The third is the horrid thing that happens when they are joined.

I think the problem is that sh3d always treats walls as symmetric about the centre line and that is the only join point.

I'd like to be able to move the position of the "centre line" to anywhere within the wall thus allowing a connection looking like the middle picture above.

Dave

Posted by hansmex at Sep 24, 2013, 1:36:18 PM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
What you want is not possible in SH3D.
You are correct in assuming that walls are "reigned" by their centre lines.

Top - these walls can be joined.

Middle - these walls can not be joined. Use absolute X,Y coordinates to correctly position the end of one wall and the start of the other wall on the same spot. Note that if these walls surround a room, SH3D will think the room is not closed, and you can not create a room by just double-clicking inside the space.

Bottom - these walls can not be joined. There is no solution (that I know of) to fill the gap using the walls tool. As a workaround you could insert a triangle to fill the gap (Import a triangle and rotate it). You can not auto-create a room, because the space isn't enclosed by walls, according to the program.

SH3D is meant as an interior decorating tool, not as an architectural design tool. I think it's highly unlikely that Emmanuel Puybaret will create the feature you want, because it would make the program too complicated.

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Posted by Puybaret at Sep 24, 2013, 2:19:22 PM

Re: Splitting walls and joining them?
There's still a solution with the existing version of Sweet Home 3D, but it's not very handy: Use very small intermediate walls that will join the thicker walls to the less thick one.

See sh3d file attached to this message.
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Recess.sh3d (6503 bytes) (Download count: 203053)

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Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator

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