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| Posted by Swelst at Nov 30, 2025, 11:27:46 AM |
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Areal View Problem Hi I installed sh3d 7.5 on my new Tuxedo-Laptop (TuxedoOS/Kubuntu) I have already sh3d 7.5 on my desktop (Kubuntu KDE Plasma). While I am able zooming close to my house in areal view on my Desktop, i can't do this on my new Laptop ... the view stays in a panoramic state and i cannot come closer ... (while I can do it on my desktop) The difference may be that my kubuntu Desktop works with X11 while the Laptop has Wayland. Is there a way to solve this ? Brgds |
| Posted by Keet at Nov 30, 2025, 11:48:06 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem new Tuxedo-Laptop  The difference may be that my kubuntu Desktop works with X11 while the Laptop has Wayland. Switch the laptop to X11?Is there a way to solve this ? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-use-x-instead-of-wayland-on-ubuntu-22-04 Notice the warning. ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 1, 2025, 1:55:15 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem I tried this, but it doesnt change ... still no zoom in areal view. |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 1, 2025, 2:04:13 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Do you have a menu option "Parallel projection" under 3D view? Maybe you have activated it which would prevent zooming. ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 2, 2025, 10:02:06 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem I don't find any option like that. Where should it be ? |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 2, 2025, 10:14:44 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem It seems that the zoom is oriented at the "widest" niveau. If I hide the surrounding - niveaus I can zoom closer. I dont have this limitation on desktop .... |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 2, 2025, 10:30:12 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem I don't find any option like that. It's under the 3D view menu option but I possibly have it through one of my installed plugins (Pan3Dview?)Where should it be ? ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 2, 2025, 10:56:11 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem With Pan3Dview installed I dont have such an option, but ... With this plugin I can zoom in areal view, although it's a bit hard to handle. If I change sight-angle it pops back to panorama and I have to zoom again. It's also very tricky with zoom-scrolling - if you do it too fast its jumping to extreme zoom and back .... |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 2, 2025, 11:09:52 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem It seems that the zoom is oriented at the "widest" niveau. Are you sure it's the same project? A different selected level, which levels are visible, objects over a wider area, a selected object, all of these can change the behavior of the zoom. The exact same situation should result in the same zoom behavior.If I hide the surrounding - niveaus I can zoom closer. I dont have this limitation on desktop .... Have you tried scrolling with an external mouse? Does the same happen if you have the 3Dview pane detached (separate window)? ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 2, 2025, 1:41:20 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem It is the same file/project shared and updated by a nextcloud server. It Is exactly the same situation, also the external mouse is the same brand. Seperate window makes no difference. The only difference is the machine it is running on. |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 2, 2025, 2:34:28 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem I'm sorry, but then I am out of ideas what could cause this problem. You could check that all preference settings are same on both machines but I assume you already did that. Still, you should check with another project if the same problem occurs. If it does than the only thing left is the different machines/installed distributions. ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Daniels118 at Dec 2, 2025, 6:33:47 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Are you able to zoom in/out using W/S keys or Up/Down arrow keys? Some mouse have an high frequency scroll wheel which may affect the scroll speed, so trying with a different mouse could help. Another option is, with Pan3dView plugin installed, go to View 3D -> Pan 3D view settings..., then uncheck the "Exponential scroll" option. This should enable the default zoom speed. If nothing works, run the program from the command line, copy the output and paste it here (if there are java exception we may find the root cause). |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 2, 2025, 9:20:50 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem I have Pan3dView.sh3p in the plugins Folder. I din't find any option to change any pan3d setting. Running from command line is not an option since this is a flatpak installation, as it is the same like on the Desktop PC |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 2, 2025, 9:41:21 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Running from command line is not an option since this is a flatpak installation And there might be the cause of your problem. Don't use a flatpak installation. The creators of flatpaks seem to think they know better what to pack and most likely have stripped the java runtime. That it works at all on your desktop is plain luck.Download the 7.5 .tgz and extract it in a directory of your choice. Start Sweet Home 3D with the SweetHome3D_Java3D-1_5_2 script. The .tgz comes with the correct Java runtime included and using that avoids all kinds of problems. It doesn't interfere with an existing Java install. ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 3, 2025, 8:03:13 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem For sure that is not the problem. I installed the stand-alone version on my Laptop first. As I recognized the problem, I looked on my desktop and found that the installation there was flatpak. So I did the exact configuration with flatpak on the laptop and the problem persists. |
| Posted by Keet at Dec 3, 2025, 9:24:27 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Check the menu > Help > About. The dialog will show the Java version that is used. Compare them between the desktop and laptop. Your best bet is using the Java version provided with Sweet Home 3D, both for the 3D display and photo rendering. (Use the SweetHome3D_Java3D-1_5_2 script from the .tgz download for an example.) ETA: I tried Sweet Home 3D with the latest Java (1.8.0_471/jre8U471) and everything seems to work fine. I needed that to fix an issue with the pluginmanager that now works as it should. Also no problems with zooming in 3D view. You can try that too. ---------------------------------------- Dodecagon.nl 1300+ 3D models, manuals, and projects |
| Posted by Daniels118 at Dec 3, 2025, 8:07:38 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Also, having Pan3dView plugin without the additional options could mean that you have an old version of the plugin, which could have bugs. |
| Posted by Swelst at Dec 4, 2025, 10:02:54 AM |
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Re: Areal View Problem Java the same in both installations. Java 1.8.0.202_64bit Java3D 1,6 2a JOGL 2.5.0 Pan3d was an old Version ... new Verion (3.7.4) installed, but the behaviour, that changing angle bounces the view back to panorama persists ... |
| Posted by sjb007 at Dec 4, 2025, 3:48:56 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem A few random thoughts:
For X you could try something like xinput listâ¡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]xinput disable 18I don't use Wayland, so you would have to figure that out yourself. |
| Posted by sjb007 at Dec 4, 2025, 11:19:40 PM |
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Re: Areal View Problem A few additional thoughts
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