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Posted by decard at Sep 1, 2022, 9:10:48 AM
Measuring a multipart distance?
as a trivial execise, i am trying to measure the Kitchen 'Work Triangle'

but i haven't worked out a way to do it

just using Dimension doesn't seem to work becuase it doesn't seem to want toi do a multi-part line

i tried a polyline, which creates a line ok (and i notice IT has options for line dashes); but it doesn't incl part or total line length; nor (again) does Dimensioning work

there must be a way to do this simple thing?

Posted by Puybaret at Sep 1, 2022, 10:12:10 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
You can create a dimension line which measure anything by clicking at its starting point then at its end point. Why this method wouldn't satisfy your needs?
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Posted by hansmex at Sep 1, 2022, 10:42:15 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
In Google Maps it is possible to make a multi-point measurement. Even to the point that when the last click is on the same position as the first click, GM also gives the enclosed surface.

SH3D doesn't have either of these functions.
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Posted by Puybaret at Sep 1, 2022, 11:20:40 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant by multi-part line. Hans is right, there's no way to draw a dimension line made of more than 2 points or measure the length of a polyline.
By the way, I wonder how such a length could be displayed? Any example?
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Posted by hansmex at Sep 1, 2022, 12:01:59 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
SH3D has a "smart system of hints" that show where the cursor or an object is relative to another point. Think of info you get when inserting doors/windows, drawing a room, drawing a wall or dimension.

On the one side nice and helpful, on the other side useless if you do not draw your points/lines to exact X,Y coordinates. A wall that is approximately 2 meters long, is not a wall that is useful for a builder, architect or planning commision.

The same goes for dimensions. If you draw dimensions along the above walls, they're nice as a kind of general information, but useless as a tool for building or specification.

Recently a user wrote about developing a new plugin or even fork of the program, where connections would be elastic-magnetic. When that would become a reality, you could connect dimensions elastically and change them with wall lengths. (is this still clear??) I know this is a feature that in some form or other has been asked by many people, and I can see it would be loved by many, including me

Multi-point dimensions could be interesting, especially after elastic-magnetic connections are implemented and in combination with an excellent "smart system of hints".

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Posted by decard at Sep 1, 2022, 2:49:44 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
thank you

this obviously works fine for a single point-to-point line/measurement; but does not (as mentioned) seem to let me make a multi-point line/measurement, in this case a triangle.

or alternatively, and possibly more likely, the circumference of a room, although area would suffice in most cases, except when you needed to now the total length of the circumference of an area espec if odd shaped.

obviously in my case of a triangle, i could add three separate Dimensions and move and add manually, but i was hoping to do it more easily

Posted by decard at Sep 1, 2022, 2:54:11 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
Noted. Thank you.

The only answer in this simple case might be to make three seperate 'Dimensions', and add manually.

Posted by Daniels118 at Sep 1, 2022, 4:28:18 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
If you have to sum up a very large number of segments you could use the Wirings plugin. Ir isn't intended for this specific purpose but could work.

Posted by Keet at Sep 1, 2022, 5:37:47 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
For the circumference of a room you can use the Rooms Information plugin. After install you can find it under Tools in the menu.
Give the rooms a name so you can recognize them in the information list.
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Posted by decard at Sep 2, 2022, 6:18:10 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
noted. interesting work-around. good idea.

i will try just to see. sounds like it could work perfectly.

Posted by decard at Sep 2, 2022, 6:19:33 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
hmmm. so i could create a dummy Room (i wish this function had a more suitable name), and check there.

i wil try that too. Thank you.

Posted by decard at Sep 2, 2022, 6:23:02 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
thank you.

not fully cognisant at the moment of all that you refer to, but will check more in coming days

Posted by decard at Sep 2, 2022, 6:35:51 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
hi.

certainly measuring (or displaying) total length of polyline would seem to be a useful worthwhile thig to have

and should be embedded as function of polyline itself, rather than separate Dimensions function.

Posted by Daniels118 at Sep 2, 2022, 11:32:22 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
@Decard
I'm not sure if your message is in reply to mine, in such case the Wirings toolbox displays the lenghts grouped by line style/color, so you can use a different color/style for each measurement. The real purpose is to measure how much wire to buy, provided that different parts of the electrical plant may require different kind of wire.

Posted by Si60 at Sep 3, 2022, 4:55:22 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
Looking at thus post has reminded me of another matter I have been considering.
Is it possible to auto dimension walls in elevation or 3D view?
Or even manually dimension?
I think that this feature would be very useful.
Presently I am building a house I have designed on SH, but I find I have to manually (and time consumingly!) draw the wall elevations, using 'properties' of things like windows and doors, to be able to set up the formwork.
As someone else has suggested, the wiring plug-in sort of works. It also suggests that the program 'knows' what the dimensions are, there just needs to be a plug-in or whatever to reveal that information.
Lastly many many thanks to all the clever people who have contributed to the development of this amazing software. Personally I wouldn't even know where to start!

Posted by Daniels118 at Sep 3, 2022, 8:47:04 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
@Si60
Maybe the 3D dimension lines plugin could work for you.
Please open a new thread if you need to continue the discussion.

Posted by hansmex at Sep 3, 2022, 2:18:54 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
After reading your last message, I installed Pan3D and Dimensions3D.
I then tried to make a render to see whether the dimensions show up in the images.
Unfortunately, no matter what I tried, I wasn't able to produce an image. Not with SH3D, nor with any of the rendering plugins from Enko.
After uninstalling both plugins, I as able to make renders again.

Contact me in private if you need more info, such as complete list of installed plugins.

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Posted by decard at Sep 4, 2022, 3:03:18 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
@Decard
I'm not sure if your message is in reply to mine, in such case the Wirings toolbox displays the lenghts grouped by line style/color, so you can use a different color/style for each measurement. The real purpose is to measure how much wire to buy, provided that different parts of the electrical plant may require different kind of wire.


many thanks for this.

for my trivial excecise (Kitchen Triangle), i just used three p-to-p Dimensions

but this plugin is a very useful plug-in any case, which i must keep in mind for the purpose for which it was intended. or any other multi-point measurements.

Posted by decard at Sep 6, 2022, 8:28:33 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
In Google Maps it is possible to make a multi-point measurement. Even to the point that when the last click is on the same position as the first click, GM also gives the enclosed surface.

SH3D doesn't have either of these functions.


hmm. you give me idea for something completely different! :-)

just recently, i was trying to measure how far i am running at the moment (i recently started again after 30 years), and you are right i think - i could use Google Maps to calculate. i use, but i never thought of that purpose.

Posted by decard at Sep 7, 2022, 8:57:26 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
In Google Maps it is possible to make a multi-point measurement. Even to the point that when the last click is on the same position as the first click, GM also gives the enclosed surface.

SH3D doesn't have either of these functions.


have now checked/trioed this (Google Maps) fopr my running distance.

works well once you get te hang of it. the only prob is - a limit of just 10 data points. which was JUST enough for my current run, but not enough for planned run/s.

(btw, it seems to be accurate as it almost exactly matched what we measured on bike - which sort of confirms the accuracy of both.)

but having been given that idea, might search if i can do with something woith more data points

Posted by Daniels118 at Sep 7, 2022, 2:21:32 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
This is OT, however: you can use a GPS tracker, I'm quite sure there are free apps for your smartphone and the track can then be placed over google maps. I have seen some websites with such maps with a lot of details, such as altitude chart and so on. You can also take photos with geo data and they will be placed over the map at right coordinates.

Posted by decard at Sep 9, 2022, 7:43:01 AM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
This is OT, however: you can use a GPS tracker, I'm quite sure there are free apps for your smartphone and the track can then be placed over google maps. I have seen some websites with such maps with a lot of details, such as altitude chart and so on. You can also take photos with geo data and they will be placed over the map at right coordinates.


TY. but this is getting too much like hard work for me. :-)

Posted by robcmorgan at Jun 12, 2023, 3:31:08 PM
Re: Measuring a multipart distance?
I think I've found an answer...

If you right click on a polyline and do Select Object it tells you the length of the whole polyline (just on the menu item itself).