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Layering or hiding or selective locking

GREAT job on this program! Absolutely love it, and now i want to make wheels on all my furniture, because i've found so many cool configurations of my room that i want to be able to change it as fast irl as in Sweet Home 3d! (-:

What would improve usability for me, would be the option to change the order of objects in the 2d view. I've had to add a bunch of boxes to complete the shape of the room, but i don't want to see them in the 2d view (after i've made them).

Also, the carpet i put under my dinner table obstructs the dinner table in 2d. This could be fixed if the objects would get an extra property (Z-index, like in html), in which objects could be sent to front and back. This would effectively allow one to hide objects as well in 2d (while keeping 3d) simply by moving them behind the base plan.

If objects would be stacked in order of the object list, that would be good too. The extra property would be better, but following the order of the list would at least give the user some control of what to show on top of what (and keep carpets _under_ tables ;-> )

While on the object list in the bottom left corner, i was pleased with the ability to give objects names, but surprised that this overrules the original model name. I'd plea for having them both: "This is a 'Box', i call it 'Step 1'". This way, i could choose to show all boxes together, or all objects i called Steps.

Just some open suggestions though, because i keep happily using SH3D without these features as well. (-:
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

Bart,

Objects are stacked in the order they are added to the design. If you add the rug last, it will be on top of the (coffee) table.

Workaround: copy all your stuff somewhere else, then copy the objects in the desired order to a new location and delete the old stuff.

Hans
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

Hi, I gather from a remark somewhere in the help file that there might be a new way of stacking objects vertically in 2D view (e.g. chair above carpet) using a new parameter in v5.1. I can't find a specific reference to it yet. Can anyone point me to this? Many thanks. Great program smile
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

The furniture are stacked in draw order but also to elevation 0.
In real world, even a rug has a high (about 1~2cm).
Try this:
-put a chair (eg.Living room -> Armchair)
-put a rug over chair (eg.Living room -> Oriental rug)=> the rug hide the chair
-from furniture list on the left-bottom panel, select (double-click) the Armchair and modify the elevation from 0 to 1.5cm or 2cm
-verify the accuracy in 2D and 3D.
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

TRBuchholz, there was no new way of stacking objects in version 5.1. Maybe you thought about the dropOnTopElevation property added in version 4.4, but this parameter is not accessible from the user interface.
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

Many thanks Dorin for this suggestion; this is indeed what I did in the end. I thought that I had seen a mention of a different way. Something like the MS Office feature (move one level forward/back/to back/to front) would be good. Sadly I have no idea how to implement such a change :-( but I really appreciate the work of those who can and do :-)
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

You're welcome!
You're right when You have many furniture at the same elevation but different height.(eg. a dining table and few chairs which are partially under table). If You put the table first and then the chairs these will appear over the table; You must use this procedure:
select the table -> Ctrl+x -> Ctrl+v
=> the table will be shown over the chairs but also, in the furniture list will be moved to the end position.
Indeed it would be great to have the possibility to move up/down the selected furniture in the furniture list.
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

Still, it would be awesome if it would be able to designate 2d and 3d layering seperately, or to hide certain objects in 2d or make them transparent.

For example: My living room has a part of ceiling that is lower than the rest. I can draw it by making a box hanging down from the ceiling, but it clogs up the 2d view; it's more part of the floor plan, and not furniture.

I know it sounds a bit far fetched and not a big deal... On the other hand, it would just be an extra parameter and it would allow you to do some nice things.
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Re: Layering or hiding or selective locking

1 - Use Add layer at same elevation to separate 2D and 3D.
You can switch the layers on and off.

2 - Draw the lower ceiling as a room on a separate layer. Make the floor invisible.
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